[Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

Discussion:

Tony Anderson

2018-12-01 05:34:34 UTC

I am trying to install sugar on a Windows laptop.

I was able to get 50gb unallocated space and installed ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

The command 'sudo apt install sucrose' returned package not found.

Tony

Alex Perez

2018-12-01 18:12:15 UTC

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Tony,

It sounds like you do not have the 'universe' apt repository enabled,
since this is where the sucrose package lives, according to
https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose

With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo
add-apt-repository universe" and enable it.

Friday, November 30, 2018 9:34 PM
I am trying to install sugar on a Windows laptop.
I was able to get 50gb unallocated space and installed ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
The command 'sudo apt install sucrose' returned package not found.
Tony
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Tony Anderson

2018-12-02 05:00:07 UTC

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Hi Alex,

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

I had suspected that the instructions on the Sugar wiki were not
complete. We spent time changing the markup to gitHub but apparently not
time testing the instructions.

Tony

Post by Alex Perez
Tony,
It sounds like you do not have the 'universe' apt repository enabled,
since this is where the sucrose package lives, according to
https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo
add-apt-repository universe" and enable it.

Alex Perez

2018-12-02 05:29:15 UTC

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This is the kind of thing that's really easy to overlook, especially if
you already have the universe repo enabled on the machine, when whomever
wrote the documentation wrote it. Chances are, the original author did
test it, but only within their environment.

December 1, 2018 at 9:00 PM
Hi Alex,
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
I had suspected that the instructions on the Sugar wiki were not
complete. We spent time changing the markup to gitHub but apparently
not time testing the instructions.
Tony
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December 1, 2018 at 10:12 AM
Tony,
It sounds like you do not have the 'universe' apt repository enabled,
since this is where the sucrose package lives, according to
https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo
add-apt-repository universe" and enable it.
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Tony Anderson

2018-12-03 10:10:54 UTC

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Sadly, this is not the problem. The Universe repository was enabled.

wiki.debian.org/sugar/#Running the Sugar interface says Upcoming Debian
9 "Stretch" will include 0.110. (We are on 0.112).
Packages overiview for Debian Sugar Team says sugar: 0.110.0-3 as stable
and 0.112.6 with 7 bugs and unstable. Naturally I don't know whether any
of this refers to 'sucrose' in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

Tony

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Tony Anderson

2018-12-10 17:35:54 UTC

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Hi, Alex

I used https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/ubuntu.md.

Tony

Tony,
Can you cite the documentation you were using? Nowhere in this process
is that cited, and without it, this one line command can't be added.
Do you have a wiki account? If so, please feel free to add it to the
appropriate page yourself, but it would also be helpful for you to
actually cite the content you are referencing here.
Regards,
Alex Perez

December 10, 2018 at 8:48 AM
Hi, James
sudo apt-get update
before
sudo apt install sucrose
For me, the real concern is that someone attracted to try Sugar may
be turned away be incomplete installation instructions.
Tony
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December 9, 2018 at 7:16 PM
Just now, tested Ubuntu 18.04 and 18.04.1 installation media by
installing Sugar. The universe repository was already enabled, and
"sudo apt install sucrose" completed normally. After restart, and
Sugar selected from login, everything worked fine.
There's no error "package not found". When you try to install a
package that is not listed, you get "E: Unable to locate package
sucrose".
One scenario where "sudo apt install sucrose" may say "E: Unable to
locate package sucrose" is where the system does not have internet
access, or where access was not available during a critical period
after boot when the Ubuntu system automatically updates the package
list. Missing network drivers is a common cause. Nothing to do with
Sugar though, and we won't document all the foibles of Ubuntu.
Please do update the Debian Wiki if it is in error. Not really our
responsibility here at Sugar Labs, so we rely on interested people to
do it.

Post by Tony Anderson
Sadly, this is not the problem. The Universe repository was enabled.
wiki.debian.org/sugar/#Running the Sugar interface says Upcoming Debian 9
"Stretch" will include 0.110. (We are on 0.112).
Packages overiview for Debian Sugar Team says sugar: 0.110.0-3 as stable and
0.112.6 with 7 bugs and unstable. Naturally I don't know whether any of this
refers to 'sucrose' in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
Tony
Tony,
It sounds like you do not have the 'universe' apt repository enabled, since
this is where the sucrose package lives, according to [1]https://
packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo add-apt-repository
universe" and enable it.
[2]Tony Anderson
Friday, November 30, 2018 9:34 PM
I am trying to install sugar on a Windows laptop.
I was able to get 50gb unallocated space and installed ubuntu 18.04
LTS.
The command 'sudo apt install sucrose' returned package not found.
Tony
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[1]https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
[4]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[6]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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December 3, 2018 at 2:10 AM
Sadly, this is not the problem. The Universe repository was enabled.
wiki.debian.org/sugar/#Running the Sugar interface says Upcoming
Debian 9 "Stretch" will include 0.110. (We are on 0.112).
Packages overiview for Debian Sugar Team says sugar: 0.110.0-3 as
stable and 0.112.6 with 7 bugs and unstable. Naturally I don't know
whether any of this refers to 'sucrose' in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
Tony
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December 1, 2018 at 10:12 AM
Tony,
It sounds like you do not have the 'universe' apt repository enabled,
since this is where the sucrose package lives, according to
https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo
add-apt-repository universe" and enable it.
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Alex Perez

2018-12-10 18:25:06 UTC

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Tony,

Thanks. I have updated it with the two additional commands required, the
first of which activates the universe repo, and, if it's already
installs is a no-op:

https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/ubuntu.md

December 10, 2018 at 9:35 AM
Hi, Alex
I used https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/ubuntu.md.
Tony
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December 10, 2018 at 9:12 AM
Tony,
Can you cite the documentation you were using? Nowhere in this process
is that cited, and without it, this one line command can't be added.
Do you have a wiki account? If so, please feel free to add it to the
appropriate page yourself, but it would also be helpful for you to
actually cite the content you are referencing here.
Regards,
Alex Perez
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Sugar-devel mailing list
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
December 10, 2018 at 8:48 AM
Hi, James
sudo apt-get update
before
sudo apt install sucrose
For me, the real concern is that someone attracted to try Sugar may be
turned away be incomplete installation instructions.
Tony
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Sugar-devel mailing list
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December 9, 2018 at 7:16 PM
Just now, tested Ubuntu 18.04 and 18.04.1 installation media by
installing Sugar. The universe repository was already enabled, and
"sudo apt install sucrose" completed normally. After restart, and
Sugar selected from login, everything worked fine.
There's no error "package not found". When you try to install a
package that is not listed, you get "E: Unable to locate package
sucrose".
One scenario where "sudo apt install sucrose" may say "E: Unable to
locate package sucrose" is where the system does not have internet
access, or where access was not available during a critical period
after boot when the Ubuntu system automatically updates the package
list. Missing network drivers is a common cause. Nothing to do with
Sugar though, and we won't document all the foibles of Ubuntu.
Please do update the Debian Wiki if it is in error. Not really our
responsibility here at Sugar Labs, so we rely on interested people to
do it.

Post by Tony Anderson
Sadly, this is not the problem. The Universe repository was enabled.
wiki.debian.org/sugar/#Running the Sugar interface says Upcoming Debian 9
"Stretch" will include 0.110. (We are on 0.112).
Packages overiview for Debian Sugar Team says sugar: 0.110.0-3 as stable and
0.112.6 with 7 bugs and unstable. Naturally I don't know whether any of this
refers to 'sucrose' in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
Tony
Tony,
It sounds like you do not have the 'universe' apt repository enabled, since
this is where the sucrose package lives, according to [1]https://
packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo add-apt-repository
universe" and enable it.
[2]Tony Anderson
Friday, November 30, 2018 9:34 PM
I am trying to install sugar on a Windows laptop.
I was able to get 50gb unallocated space and installed ubuntu 18.04
LTS.
The command 'sudo apt install sucrose' returned package not found.
Tony
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[1] https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose
[4] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[6] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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Tony Anderson

2018-12-11 02:04:57 UTC

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Alex,

Thanks. Well done.

Tony

Post by Alex Perez
Tony,
Thanks. I have updated it with the two additional commands required,
the first of which activates the universe repo, and, if it's already
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/ubuntu.md

December 10, 2018 at 9:35 AM
Hi, Alex
I used https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/ubuntu.md.
Tony
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December 10, 2018 at 9:12 AM
Tony,
Can you cite the documentation you were using? Nowhere in this
process is that cited, and without it, this one line command can't be
added. Do you have a wiki account? If so, please feel free to add it
to the appropriate page yourself, but it would also be helpful for
you to actually cite the content you are referencing here.
Regards,
Alex Perez
_______________________________________________
Sugar-devel mailing list
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
December 10, 2018 at 8:48 AM
Hi, James
sudo apt-get update
before
sudo apt install sucrose
For me, the real concern is that someone attracted to try Sugar may
be turned away be incomplete installation instructions.
Tony
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Sugar-devel mailing list
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
December 9, 2018 at 7:16 PM
Just now, tested Ubuntu 18.04 and 18.04.1 installation media by
installing Sugar. The universe repository was already enabled, and
"sudo apt install sucrose" completed normally. After restart, and
Sugar selected from login, everything worked fine.
There's no error "package not found". When you try to install a
package that is not listed, you get "E: Unable to locate package
sucrose".
One scenario where "sudo apt install sucrose" may say "E: Unable to
locate package sucrose" is where the system does not have internet
access, or where access was not available during a critical period
after boot when the Ubuntu system automatically updates the package
list. Missing network drivers is a common cause. Nothing to do with
Sugar though, and we won't document all the foibles of Ubuntu.
Please do update the Debian Wiki if it is in error. Not really our
responsibility here at Sugar Labs, so we rely on interested people to
do it.

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